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[POLL] Should Lime Technology make unRAID CentOS 64-Bit Edition?

« on: January 11, 2014, 11:19:45 AM »

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Should Lime Technology make unRAID CentOS 64-Bit Edition?

unRAID running on CentOS 6.5 with KVM, Webmin, Monitorix, XBMC, and a bunch of other services and file systems.



NOTE: A Desktop GUI, XBMC and all the other apps are OPTIONIAL and similar to a plugin. You would have decide you want it and then install it via the Package Manager. For the sake of the thread and making my life easier, I installed a Desktop GUI so I can show you more things at once rather than a command line / WebGUI. EVERYTHING you see running in the picture(s) above / below and a Desktop GUI... It still takes up less than 1GB of Memory.

What we know so far...

Quote from: limetech on December 23, 2013, 01:24:50 PM

"I do think the idea of an 'unRaid package' is long overdue."

"we are adjusting business plans to accommodate this."

"I just ask for a little more patience."

Priorities / Possible Release Schedule...

Quote from: limetech on December 23, 2013, 01:24:50 PM

"Publish 5.0.5 - this has a couple minor fixes."

"Publish 5.1-beta1 - this is 5.0.5 with latest 'webGui' integrated."

"Push this 'webGui' onto github as 'webGui-master'."

"Publish 6.1-beta1 - this is 64-bit unRaid with numerous updates including 'webGui-master' and virtualization support"

"Idea is webGui will run on both platforms."

NOTE: Lime Technology has not provided an ETA for any of the above. I am not privy to anything or wouldn't begin to guess what the ETA is. 

The purpose of this Poll / Thread...

1. Show "Proof of Concept" that unRAID does indeed work in CentOS and works well.

2. Lime Technology is currently reviewing and adjusting their business plans to possible make this become a reality so this thread / poll / "Proof of Concept" is a way for us to show our interest, desire for unRAID CentOS Edition or oppose it. 

3. It also gives me / others a chance to answer many of the questions you have and centralize everything that has been spread across multiple threads.

4. I also can provide additional pictures, tests, etc. upon request and update the first few posts with them.

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Re: [POLL] Should Lime Technology make unRAID CentOS 64-Bit Edition?

« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 11:20:08 AM »

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unRAID CentOS Edition with LVM capability along with Samba / NFS Shares in the unRAID WebGUI plus the /user/mnt folder


unRAID CentOS Edition with EXT2, EXT3, EXT4, Reiser, BTRFS, JFS, XFS, GFS2, OCFS2, VFAT, NTFS, HFS, HFS+, iSCSI, AoE, NFS3/4, 9P (VirtFS), SquashFS, UFS, Ceph, etc.


unRAID CentOS Edition with KVM, XBMC, Drive Usage Anaysler and starting 2 separate Preclears


Tough Crowd... I waited 4 or 5 hours to see if anyone would noticed that one of my Hard Drives has errors (First Picture in this thread). Apparently due to the small size of the pictures you must of missed it or you want my Development Server to crash and lose my data. Not sure which one it is yet. Anyway... Glad CentOS popped up a notification on my Desktop, Emailed me and as you see below when I log into Webmin, it too lets me know.

There are several other screens / tests / reports / etc. from within Webmin and the programs / tools included in CentOS that I do not show below. 

NOTE: No Red Ball, no notification or warning when booting into unRAID "bare metal".

Here is what it looks like from Webmin...


NOTE: I have many more screenshots to add. I will show you various VMs running, unRAID running on the Host with some hard drives and another unRAID running in a VM with a different set of hard drives at the same time, a nVidia GT430 passed through in a VM with Video Hardware Acceleration, performance numbers, etc. 

However, I need to show you from Arch Linux since CentOS 6.5 is old and it would take me FOREVER to compile all the correct drivers, libvirt, QEMU, etc. This will not be an issue in CentOS 7.0 since it's a MAJOR overhaul / upgrade. The Red Hat 7.0 Beta (which CentOS is a 100% clone of is still too buggy)

Let me get a bulk of the CentOS questions out of the way and I will add the unRAID Arch Linux ones which will give you an idea of performance.

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Re: [POLL] Should Lime Technology make unRAID CentOS 64-Bit Edition?

« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 11:20:27 AM »

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Updating unRAID CentOS Edition via a WebGUI

NOTE: Look at the bottom to see how easy it is to set a schedule when it looks for updates. You can also tell it to email you depending on what the updates are and even have them install automatically. 



Install Packages in unRAID CentOS Edition via a WebGUI



Start, Stop Services and Enable Services / Apps to start Automatically at boot via a WebGUI

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Quote from: archedraft on January 11, 2014, 02:41:45 PM

If you made unRAID run on centOS would you then be able to use the package manager with using a VM?

Did you mean without a VM? If so, then the answer is yes.

Quote from: archedraft on January 11, 2014, 02:41:45 PM

My understanding is that all one would have to do is go to the command line and type "apt-get" (or whatever centOS uses) and then it would get the programs?

Yes, assuming the program that you want to install is in a CentOS repository (there are a bunch of them and Lime Technology could create their own where all the plugins we use now are in it).

In CentOS, Fedora, RHEL, etc. the command is "yum install".

Personally, I think the yum package manager is more robust than the one Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, etc. use ("apt-get").

Examples of what you can do in Yum...

The search option checks the names, descriptions, summaries and listed package maintainers of all of the available packages to find those that match. For example, to search for all packages that relate to mysql, type: 

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yum search mysql
The provides function checks both the files included in the packages and the functions that the software provides. To search for all packages that include files called libcrypto, type: 

Code: [Select]

yum provides libcrypto
Let's say you loaded a program and it gives you the following error when you try to run it:

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Missing libncurses.so.5

You could use yum to find out what package you need to install:

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yum provides libncurses.so.5

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unRAID lib64 # yum provides libncurses.so.5
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit, security
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * Webmin: download.webmin.com
 * base: mirror.teklinks.com
 * elrepo: mirror.symnds.com
 * epel: mirror.us.leaseweb.net
 * extras: mirror.trouble-free.net
 * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.us.leaseweb.net
 * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.us.leaseweb.net
 * updates: dallas.tx.mirror.xygenhosting.com
ncurses-libs-5.7-3.20090208.el6.i686 : Ncurses libraries
Repo        : base
Matched from:
Other       : libncurses.so.5
Use ‘yum provides’ if you like to know which package a particular file belongs to. For example, if you like to know the name of the package that has the /etc/sysconfig/nfs file, do the following.

Code: [Select]

yum provides /etc/sysconfig/nfs
I hope that Lime Technology is taking things like a Package Manager into account in their Business Planning. I know that support is one of their Top Priorities and I believe a Package Manager will help with this. Due to the fact Slackware doesn't have a Package Manager and due to 10,000+ Threads / Posts related to Plugins / No Package Manager... A Linux Distro with a Package Manager is something I hope they really take a long / hard look at and consider possibly changing Linux Distros in the future.

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